Room Conversation
Prabhupāda: ...And Viṣṅu mand... Temple we are protected from 12 sides.
Devotee: Prabhupāda if you don't have any kind of tilaka can you put on with water.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Devotee: If you don't have tilaka.
Prabhupāda: Why you? Why you will not have? You can have tilaka. Why water?
Devotee: I mean, [indistinct] that tilaka is washed over something.
Prabhupāda: "Washed over," see again people. Just like ready [indistinct] powderpuff.
Devotees: [Laughs]
Prabhupāda: Why don't you do that? Why don't you do like that? Eh? If they can carry. What is that?
Devotee: [indistinct] handbag.
Prabhupāda: No there is a technical name.
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Mādrī? What is that name? You never. You have left it? All right. Paraṁ dṛṣṭvā nivartate [Bg 2.59].
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Anyway the ladies carry some bag.
Devotee: Lady purse.
Prabhupāda: Eh? Lady purse. That's all right. So you carry something like that. And you know there is no [indistinct]. Just like we do sometimes, sometimes in aeroplane. You have to do that. Keep always a trademark. And our trade is Kṛṣṅa business.
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Just like you have this.
Devotee: [indistinct] sandalwood or.
Prabhupāda: No wood, any [indistinct].
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: It is called gopī-candana. Gopī-candana. This is available..
Indian: Available in the markets.
Prabhupāda: Which is known as also Multan Muskit [?] So there is agreement, so keep a little small mirror. And a piece of. There is no…
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee: [indistinct].
Prabhupāda: We are without…
Indian: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Oh yes. But. My Guru Mahārāja without mirror he could, and what is there? We can do also. [indistinct].
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Yes. Eh? There is this, tilaka, ūrdhva-puṅḍra. This is for Vaiṣṅavas or demigods. And this is for the demons.
Devotee: [indistinct] Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Demons. Because demons are, they are devotees just like Rāvaṅa. He was a great devotee of Lord Śiva. You know that? But he was known as a demon. Is it not? Why? Rāvaṅa was a great devotee, Hiraṅyakaśipu was a great devotee of Brahmā but he was known as a demon. Is it not? Yes. Anyone who defies the authority of Viṣṅu or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is a demon. Viṣṅu-bhakto bhaved daivaḥ [Padma Purāṅa].
[There are two classes of men in the created world. One consists of the demoniac and the other of the godly. The devotees of Lord Viṣṅu are the godly, whereas those who are just the opposite are called demons.]
Those who are devotees of Viṣṅu, they are devatās. And those who are opposite number, maybe devotees of anyone else. Very good man but he was a demon. Viṣṅu-bhakto bhaved daiva āsuras tad-viparayāt, anyone who is not a Viṣṅu bhakta, he is a demon. What is that?
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Yes, so if we tell the truth there is demoniac.
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Yes. So it doesn't matter whether a sannyāsī. Rāvaṅa was also sannyāsī his purpose was to kidnap Sītā. Is it not? He was... He kidnaped Sītā in the dress of a sannyāsī. Therefore he is a demon.
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Eh? Sannyāsī is mahātmā a devotee. Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ bhajanty ananya-manaso [Bg 9.13]
[O son of Pṛthā, those who are not deluded, the great souls, are under the protection of the divine nature. They are fully engaged in devotional service because they know Me as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, original and inexhaustible.]
[Hindi]
Indian: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Indian: [Hindi]
Prabhupāda: [Hindi]
Indian: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: He's demon. The demons also are sometimes are very powerful. They are very learned also sometimes. Just like Rāvaṅa was very learned, very powerful, but he was a demon. Kaṁsa was also very powerful, Hiraṅyakaśipu was so powerful that all the demigods would faint by seeing his angry eyes.
Devotees: [Laughter]
Prabhupāda: Prahlāda Mahārāja says like that. "My dear Lord, you are trying to give me material benefits, thank you very much. But I have seen my father was so materially powerful that simply by seeing his angry eyes the demigods would faint. But you have seen it, they want it. So what is the value of this, why you are offering this." So that...
What is the value of this material benefit, it is known to the devotees. Therefore it is said that they are not interested. They are simply interested in serving the lotus feet of Kṛṣṅa. That is their only offer. They are no more interested in anything else. And that is mukti, when one is situated in that position that he has no more anything to do with anything else except Kṛṣṅa. That is... he is immediately liberated.
Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda which Canto is [indistinct] Ajāmila
Prabhupāda:Hm?
Devotee: Which Canto in Śrīmad Bhāgavatam [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Arjuna?
Devotee: Ajāmila [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Eh? fifth canto? What is his question?
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Speak one. Either you speak or they speak. Why you take two? What is the question? I cannot understand. What is that?
Devotee: He wants to know what Canto, what Ajāmila story is from.?
Prabhupāda: Oh, sixth Canto. That's all right. I could not follow the Ajāmila pronunciation. Therefore I was puzzled.
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupāda: Yes... Now at college, there was one Mr. Carmichael. He was Scotsman. So all the Scotsman they used to say dyuty. Not duty. Buety, that is for beauty.
Devotees: [Laughter]
Prabhupāda: So, one, one [Laughs] of our class friends, his name was Pramuka Mukarjay I remember. He was very cunning. So he stood up, "Sir, is that Scot's pronunciation?" He became very much angry. Mr. Carmichael. [Laughs] "Yes, that is English pronunciation." He said like. "That is correct English pronunciation." [indistinct].
Devotees: [Laughter]
Prabhupāda: So this pronunciation, that trouble is our. There is a secular place I think they are different soldiers from different provinces. They were speaking and nobody could understand. There was a trouble. What is that book? King Lear or something. These difficulties are always there. Even in India the pronunciations are different... No one can tell you. [end]
