Morning Walk

Prabhupāda: Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ

Devotee: yoginaḥ.

Prabhupāda: yoginaḥ yasyāntaṁ na viduḥ surāsura-gaṅā [SB 12.13.1].

[Sūta Gosvāmī said: Unto that personality whom Brahmā, Varuṅa, Indra, Rudra and the Maruts praise by chanting transcendental hymns and reciting the Vedas with all their corollaries, pada-kramas and Upaniṣads, to whom the chanters of the Sāma Veda always sing, whom the perfected yogīs see within their minds after fixing themselves in trance and becoming fully absorbed in thoughts of Him, and whose limit can never be found by any demigod or demon—unto that Supreme Personality of Godhead I offer my humble obeisances.]

So the brāhmaṅas, although sura, he does not know Kṛṣṅa. Yasyāntaṁ na viduḥ surāsura-gaṅā. The asuras, they do not know. Sometimes they... Muhyanti yat surayaḥ [SB 1.1.1]. So this was the test. Kṛṣṅa made a test, that "These brāhmaṅas are very much proud of their learning, Vedic knowledge.

[break] They do not know Me." Yatatām api siddhānām [Bg 7.3].

[Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.]

Eh? Yatatām api siddhānām. They were siddhas, but they do not know Kṛṣṅa. Yes.

Bhāgavata: They were not śuddha-sāttvika. They were only sāttvika.

Prabhupāda: Yes, on the sāttvika. Yes, you are right. One has to go above the sāttvika position, śuddha-sattva. Sattvaṁ viśuddhaṁ vasudeva-śabditam [SB 4.3.23]. From Vasudeva conception, the Vāsudeva comes out.

Dr. Patel: Now, after the śuddha-sattva form that you get...

Prabhupāda: That is vasudeva-sattva.

Dr. Patel: ...then you are the real devotee.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Dr. Patel: After that also, you go beyond all the three guṅas. Then you become... [break]

Prabhupāda: ...vasudeva-śabditam. All right, go on.

Girirāja: [reading Kṛṣṅa book] "When the boys saw that the brāhmaṅas would not speak to them, they became very disappointed. They then returned to Lord Kṛṣṅa..." [break]

Prabhupāda: ...devotees of Kṛṣṅa becomes very much disappointed when one sees that the other one is not devotee of Kṛṣṅa.

Girirāja: "They then returned to Lord Kṛṣṅa and Balarāma and explained everything that had happened. After hearing their statements, the Supreme Personality began to smile. He told them that they should not be sorry for being refused by the brāhmaṅas."

Prabhupāda: And this is the position of the preacher. Even if you are disappointed, you should not stop your preaching. You should go on with your business.

Girirāja: "He told them that they should not be sorry for being refused by the brāhmaṅas, because that is the way of begging. He convinced them that while one is engaged in collecting or begging, one should not think that he will be successful everywhere. He may be unsuccessful in some places, but that should not be cause for disappointment." [break]

Prabhupāda: ...tama dāsa Ṭhākura has said, karma-kāṅḍa jñāna-kāṅḍa, sakale viṣera bhāṅḍa. Bhāṅḍa. It is a pot of poison. Karma-kāṅḍa, karma-kāṅḍa process and the jñāna-kāṅḍa process, karmīs and the jñānīs... Karma-kāṅḍa jñāna-kāṅḍa, sakale viṣera bhāṅḍa: "Both of them are poison pots." Jñāna-kāṅḍa also.

Dr. Patel: But jñāna, you say, bhakti or jñāna automatically comes up.

Prabhupāda: No, bhakti does not depend on jñāna, but jñāna depends on bhakti. Without bhakti, one cannot get liberation simply by jñāna. But if one develops bhakti, automatically he gets jñāna. Karma-kāṅḍa jñāna-kāṅḍa, sakale viṣera bhāṅḍa [Śrī Prema Bhakti-candrikā].

The viṣera bhāṅḍa, amṛta baliyā yebā khāya [Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura]. If one mistakes that this is the pot of nectarean, ambrosia, then what is the result? Nānā yoni brahman kare: "He remains within the cycle of birth and death." Nānā yoni brahman kare, kadarya bhakṣaṅa kare. And if he gets the body of a hog and dog, then he eats all the abominable things. Nānā yoni..., tāra janma adhah-pāte yāya. So he condemns his human form of body in this way. Spoils. So one should not be attached to karma-kāṅḍa, jñāna-kāṅḍa. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam [Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.1.11].

[One should render transcendental loving service to the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṅa favorably and without desire for material profit or gain through fruitive activities or philosophical speculation. That is called pure devotional service.]

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