Room Conversation

Prabhupāda: ...any language, you should submit, and you should feel that, that "I am worthless. My Guru Mahārāja has given this chance to serve Kṛṣṅa, to offer Kṛṣṅa... My Lord, I am worthless. I have no capacity to serve You. But on the order of my Guru Mahārāja, I am trying to serve You. Please do not take any offense. Accept whatever I can do. That's all. That is my request." That mantra is sufficient. Kṛṣṅa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, yo me bhaktyā prayacchati [Bg 9.26].

[If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it.]

Kṛṣṅa never said that "One who offers Me with Sanskrit mantra." Yo me bhaktyā prayacchati. Real thing is bhakti, feeling: "How to serve Kṛṣṅa? How to please Him?" That is wanted. Not to see that you are a very good scholar in speaking in Sanskrit or English or... That is not... Always feel that "I am worthless, but I have been, by the grace of my Guru Mahārāja, I have been given the chance. So kindly accept whatever little service I can give. I am offensive. So kindly excuse me." In this way be humble, meek, and offer your feeling, and Kṛṣṅa will be satisfied. Not that you have to show how you can speak in Sanskrit language.

Indian man (1): In another śloka, tṛṅād api sunīcena taror...

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Indian man (1): ...api sahiṣṅūna amāninā mānadena kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ [Cc Ādi 17.31].

[One who thinks himself lower than the grass, who is more tolerant than a tree, and who does not expect personal honor yet is always prepared to give all respect to others can very easily always chant the holy name of the Lord.]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi] So you, for the time being, engage. See that the Hindi publication is done very nice.

Indian man (2): What I thought was... [break]

Prabhupāda: Anāśritaḥ karma-phalaṁ kāryaṁ karma karoti yaḥ, sa sannyāsī [Bg 6.1].

[The Blessed Lord said: One who is unattached to the fruits of his work and who works as he is obligated is in the renounced order of life, and he is the true mystic: not he who lights no fire and performs no work.]

Anāśritaḥ kar... Everyone is expecting some good result for his sense gratification. That is āśritaḥ karma-phalaṁ. He has taken the shelter of good result. But one who does not take shelter of the result of activities... It is my duty. Karyam. Karyam means "It is my duty. Doesn't matter what is the result. I must do it sincerely to my best capacity. Then I don't care for the result. Result is in Kṛṣṅa's hand." Karyam: "It is my duty. My Guru Mahārāja said it, so it is my duty. It doesn't matter whether it is successful or not successful. That depends on Kṛṣṅa." In this way, anyone, if he works, then he is a sannyāsī. Not the dress, but the attitude of working. Yes, that is sannyāsa. Karyam: "It is my duty." Sa sannyāsī ca yogī ca. He is yogī, first-class yogī. Just like Arjuna. Arjuna, officially, he did not take sannyāsa. He was a gṛhastha, soldier. But when he took it very seriously, karyam—"Kṛṣṅa wants this fight. Never mind I have to kill my relatives. I must do it"—that is sannyāsī. First of all he argued with Kṛṣṅa that "This kind of fighting is not good, family killing," and so on, so on, so on. He argued. But after hearing Bhagavad-gītā, when he understood that "It is my duty. Kṛṣṅa wants me to do it." Karyam. So in spite of his becoming a householder, a soldier, he's a sannyāsī. He took it—karyam. Karyam means "It is my duty." That is real sannyāsī. "Kṛṣṅa wants that this Kṛṣṅa consciousness movement must be spread. So this is my karyam. This is my duty. And the direction is my spiritual master. So I must do it." This is sannyāsī. This is sannyāsī, sannyāsa mentality. But there is formality. That should... That may be accepted.

Indian man (3): That has got some psychological effect.

Prabhupāda: Ah. In India especially, people like. Sannyāsī may preach. Otherwise, the formula of sannyāsa is given—karyam: "Bās. This is my only duty. That's all. Kṛṣṅa consciousness movement should be pushed. This is my only duty." He's sannyāsī. Because Kṛṣṅa personally comes, He demands... Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṅaṁ vraja [Bg 18.66]. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Kṛṣṅa, He says, yei kṛṣṅa tattva vettā, sei guru haya [Cc Madhya 8.128]:

[Whether one is a brāhmaṅa, a sannyāsī or a śūdra—regardless of what he is—he can become a spiritual master if he knows the science of Kṛṣṅa.]

"Anyone who knows the science of Kṛṣṅa, he's guru." And what is the guru's business? Yāre dekha, tāre kaha 'kṛṣṅa'-upadeśa [Cc Madhya 7.128]:

[Instruct everyone to follow the orders of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṅa as they are given in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. In this way become a spiritual master and try to liberate everyone in this land.]

"Whomever you meet, you just try to impress upon him about the instruction of Kṛṣṅa." Sarva-dharmān parityaja... So in this way, if we take it up, very seriously—"This is my duty"—then you are a sannyāsī. That's all. Sa sannyāsī. Kṛṣṅa certifies, sa sannyāsī. People are not taking seriously about Kṛṣṅa's teaching. That is India's misfortune. They're bringing so many competition of Kṛṣṅa. "Is Kṛṣṅa..." And "Kṛṣṅa... Rāmakrishna is as good as Kṛṣṅa." This rascaldom has killed. They have done the greatest disservice.

Indian man: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Instead of Kṛṣṅa, they have brought one rascal, Ramakrishna.

Bhāgavata: They have big maṭha in Bhuvaneśvara.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Bhāgavata: In Bhuvaneśvara, they have big Ramakrishna maṭha. Vivekananda School, library, so much land, everything, very organized.

Prabhupāda: So we can do that. You have to convince people. There is no question of making competition with them. But you, you can preach your own philosophy anywhere.

Indian man (3): With that happening with the people in Orissa...

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Indian man (3): ...try to convince them: No, that is false and this is the way. [indistinct]

Prabhupāda: No, their Ramakrishna Mission allurement is that daridra-nārāyaṅa-seva and hospital. That is their only allurement. They have no program. Nobody, attracted by their philosophy. And what philosophy they have got? Never mind. We are not concerned with them.

Madhudviṣa: When we were in Māyāpur, I had the idea of...

Prabhupāda: [someone enters] Aiye. [Hindi] [aside:] Hare Kṛṣṅa. Jaya.

Indian man (4): [Hindi] Purī Mahārāja.

Prabhupāda: Purī Mahārāja? Oh? [Bengali]

Indian lady: [Bengali] [shows picture to Prabhupāda]

Prabhupāda: Oh. This Caitanya Mahāprabhu? Very good. Hang it here. Very good.

Madhudviṣa: Get some rope on it. Get some rope.

Prabhupāda: No, get some rope. Hmm. Just read. [end]