Morning Walk

Prabhupāda: ...sometimes they do not. [break]

Brahmānanda: ...cows are all becoming devotees.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is preaching.

[to passerby:] Hare Kṛṣṅa. Jaya.

[break] ...not like that. On the head. The Sarasvatī's mandir will be...

Brahmānanda: Ready?

Prabhupāda: For the last three years I am seeing.

[break] ...maṭha commander. Hmm?

Brahmānanda: Who is the temple commander?

Akṣayānanda: Hari-śauri. His name is Hari-śauri.

Prabhupāda: He is sleeping? He does not see?

Akṣayānanda: Yes. I am considering to become the temple commander myself, because it's not the first time this has happened. So many things have gone wrong. Too many. So I think I will do it myself.

Prabhupāda: Then? You will be everything.

Akṣayānanda: Because I cannot find anyone more suitable, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: And he is the suitable man. [break] [Hindi]

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Tell him that we had heard he had come and you are free now, so he can... Tell him what time.

Prabhupāda: Hmm? He went there?

Akṣayānanda: Yes, yesterday. No. Saccidānanda went.

[break] ...did not know whether he could come or not. [break]

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: ...celebration there. The education minister is also coming. He is going to be the chief guest. So we are going to have this time two big ministers coming to our Janmāṣṭamī paṅḍāl.

Dhanañjaya: Should we hold an abhiṣekha ceremony for Janmāṣṭamī?

Prabhupāda: Yes. You know what is abhiṣeka ceremony?

Dhanañjaya: Bathing ceremony.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Dhanañjaya: Should we bathe only the small Kṛṣṅa Deity?

Prabhupāda: Yes. [break] ...bathe.

Brahmānanda: How will you bathe?

Dhanañjaya: Well, the ceremony would begin about ten in the evening, and we would bathe with water, ghee, honey, yogurt.

Indian man: Mahārāj-jī

Prabhupāda: Namaskāra. [Hindi conversation] [break] We shall go. How many? Four? Five?

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Four, five. Should we have small kīrtana there also?

Brahmānanda: If we have kīrtana, we shall have to bring more men.

Prabhupāda: As they will send car.

Brahmānanda: Well they've sent, as far as I know, one car. So besides yourself, then three others could go. Maybe four.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: But it's so near that we can [indistinct]. [break] Jayapatāka is taking quotes over there, and he'll... [break]

Prabhupāda: Offset you can take. It will be very cheap.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Yes, true. And also then next time we want to reprint it, we can just reprint. It doesn't have to be composed again. [break]

Prabhupāda: You give me simply hot milk with miṣṭi. [break] They're going to foreign country, but once they go, they become disappointed and not second time.

Brahmānanda: Someone has gone?

Prabhupāda: So many.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Even this man has gone to Hong Kong.

Brahmānanda: Really?

Prabhupāda: They generally go to this Middle East, it is called. No?

Brahmānanda: Far East.

Prabhupāda: Far East, yes. Because there are many Indians.

Dhanañjaya: They also go to London.

Prabhupāda: No, not London. In London the kathā vāca, they go, Rāmāyaṅa of Tulsidas.

Akṣayānanda: Tulsidas's teaching bona fide, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: He is not pure Vaiṣṅava. He has got Māyāvādī touch. [break]

Brahmānanda: ...Swami from Bombay, his program is to go all around the world and to install the Vedas in Sanskrit.

Prabhupāda: That he tried, and he failed.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Ninety-four-year-old swami.

Prabhupāda: Gaṅgeśvarānanda.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Gaṅgeśvara. I've heard he likes us very much. Girirāja told me in Bombay that he likes us.

Prabhupāda: He is very favorable to our movement.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: He's a Māyāvādī, but he seems to have a lot of followers amongst the Indians.

Brahmānanda: Damodar Chanrai follows him.

Prabhupāda: Hmm? Damodar?

Brahmānanda: Damodar Chanrai from Nigeria.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: He was in Nigeria recently.

Brahmānanda: He follows him.

Passerby: Hare Kṛṣṅa!

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṅa. [Hindi] Caitanya Mahāprabhu said that if somebody remembers Kṛṣṅa by seeing somebody, that somebody is Vaiṣṅava. He remembers immediately Kṛṣṅa.

Brahmānanda: That's a test.

Prabhupāda: That is the test. [break]

Akṣayānanda: ...just now, Śrīla Prabhupāda, I was handed some leaflets, Chinmayananda Swami, and the printed advertisement on the leaflet wanted "Young men with graduation degree to come to our institute in Bombay. They will be trained up in Sanskrit..."

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Akṣayānanda: "To be trained in Sanskrit and philosophy. Then they will be selected by Chinmayananda for preaching all over the world. And if they qualify, then all their expenses and food and clothing will be supplied by the Chinmayananda Mission." Advertisement.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: This appeared in Times of India. It's only in Bombay. It also appeared in Times of India in [indistinct]. It was an ad just like a professional company's ad.

Prabhupāda: Nobody will be attracted.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: They are trying to attract people that they'll get a chance to go abroad.

Prabhupāda: That may be allurement.

Brahmānanda: Actually, by placing such an ad, then all the wealthy people read the ad in the newspaper, and they think, "Oh, they are doing such nice work." So then they go and collect, and they say, "Oh, you see? We are placing the ads." So on the basis of the ad alone.

Akṣayānanda: That means there is no work.

Prabhupāda: But no educated man, at least in India, is interested any more with philosophy and preaching. No Indian. [aside:] Jaya. [break]

Akṣayānanda: ...preach more, then that would help? Because he was previously a principal of a school.

Prabhupāda: No, how he is preaching? Have you heard? No, you cannot understand in Hindi.

Akṣayānanda: Hindi.

Prabhupāda: Anyone?

Dhanañjaya: We've been told he preaches nicely.

Prabhupāda: I have told him that "You simply read my books and reproduce it. That's all. That will be preaching."

Akṣayānanda: At least when he speaks to me in English, it's always very nice.

Brahmānanda: He can memorize Prabhupāda's books and then just speak it.

Akṣayānanda: Exactly.

Prabhupāda: That is preaching.

Akṣayānanda: As we do.

Prabhupāda: Our process is anuśṛṅuyāt. We hear from the superior and reproduce it. That is śravaṅaṁ-kīrtanam. Then perfect. If I add something my own imagination, then it will spoil. No addition, alteration; as it is. As it is you hear from your spiritual master, reproduce. That's all. Yāre dekha, tāre kaha 'kṛṣṅa'-upadeśa [Cc Madhya 7.128].

[Instruct everyone to follow the orders of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṅa as they are given in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. In this way become a spiritual master and try to liberate everyone in this land.]

This 'kṛṣṅa'-upadeśa is coming by paramparā, so you reproduce, that's all. Even a child can reproduce what he has heard from his father. It is not at all difficult. [break] ...cheap rate.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Yes. What we can also do is... I think we should have some publication for one rupee twenty-five paisa. We can just print a small ten-page or ten- or fifteen-page.

Prabhupāda: What you'll explain in ten or fifteen page?

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Otherwise all these books, they cost us about 1.40 for printing.

Brahmānanda: That Hanuman Prasad Poddar, he was producing big books at cheap rates.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: They were all subsidized by Rama..., all his books. And he had no profit.

Harikeśa: Also the paper is given free by Samani.

Prabhupāda: No... Yes. They were receiving contribution. Besides that, he possessed agency of Titagarh paper mill. So mill rate—immediately 33% less.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: And I heard all his books were heavily subsidized by Dalmia.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Dalmia and many big, big Marwaris.

Harikeśa: Maybe they can produce your Hindi lectures in pamphlets.

Prabhupāda: So if... You can make it cheaper. Instead of three rupees, you can make it two rupees.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Like we can have four or five of your lectures for one small book for one rupee, fifty paisa, or one rupee and... If somebody can't afford two rupees... At the present moment we are selling your Back to Godhead for two rupees. [break]

Prabhupāda: ...educated, he appreciated it.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: He wants to become your disciple.

Akṣayānanda: What if the Hindi Back to Godhead was in newspaper form? Would that be lowering the standard?

Brahmānanda: Then they'd throw it away.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: You can't have a color picture then.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Akṣayānanda: If it was in newspaper form, that would be lowering the standard too much, the Hindi Back to Godhead. Then they will throw it away?

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Like we have those...

Prabhupāda: No.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: We don't have a color cover, then...

Prabhupāda: We must have quality. Our Godbrothers, they publish tenth-quality papers. Nobody... Nobody cares.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: In Madras we are printing a big Tamil Īśopaniṣad, and one Sindhi man, he has donated eight thousand towards the cost. The total cost is eleven thousand, and he has donated about eight thousand.

Prabhupāda: In this way...

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: If we can get this... One way we can reduce our cost is by getting advertisements.

Prabhupāda: No, no.

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: But that you wish not to do. You'd rather...

Brahmānanda: Just like this other man has agreed to subsidize the Arabic book?

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: He will pay for the whole thing, not just subsidize.

Brahmānanda: So, so many can be gotten in this way. If they see the books are coming, then they will want to... [break]

Prabhupāda: ...man is convinced, then our printing of books shall be success. Manuṣyāṅāṁ sahasreṣu [Bg.7.3].

[Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.]

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: We will have thousands of people convinced. [break]

Prabhupāda: Ācāryopāsanam. In the Bhagavad-gītā: "One should worship ācārya." This is the beginning of spiritual life. Amānitvam adambhitvam ahiṁsā kṣāntir ārjavam ācāryopāsanam [Bg 13.8]. Ācāryavān puruṣo veda [Chāndogya Upaniṣad 6.14.2]. These are the injunction. Without taking shelter of ācārya, nobody can understand anything. [break] ...wants prasāda, it is not given?

Akṣayānanda: Yes. Given.

Prabhupāda: Not given. [break]

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: ...women's. They try and harass us, they try and cheat us.

Prabhupāda: Ācchā?

Gopāla Kṛṣṅa: Oh, yes. Nirnaiyika just wanted to use their scale, and they would try and cheat him. They would ask him for money just to let us use their scale to weigh the vegetables we buy. And so I intervened one day, and then he got so angry that he abused Kṛṣṅa also. These are such big demons, these people. They live in Vṛndāvana, but...

Prabhupāda: So give them prasāda; they will be all right. Yes. Give them prasāda.

Harikeśa: The perfect solution.

Brahmānanda: We were also demons before we took prasāda. [laughter]

Prabhupāda: Jaya. Our preaching means to turn demons into devotees. That is our preaching. If you keep them demon, then your preaching is lacking.

[Govindam recording playing in background]

Give them prasādam today and tell them, "Whenever you come, take prasāda." [end]