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Lectures1976.08.22Hyderabad19:13
Lecture

Initiation Lecture

Prabhupāda: [prema-dhvani prayers]

So this morning we are having initiation ceremony for some devotees. The initiation means beginning. The Sanskrit name is dīkṣā. Dīkṣā, divya-jñānaṁ kṣapayati iti dīkṣā. Initiation, beginning of spiritual life. This is the Vedic function. Every human being must be initiated in Vedic culture, to make his life fulfilled, successful, because we are born animals. Animal means one who does not know except four things: eating, sleeping, sex life and defense. These are animal life. So a dog is interested in eating, sleeping, sex life and defense, and if the man also remains in the same platform—eating, sleeping, sex life and defense—then he is no better than dog. Human beings, from this dog platform, can be raised to God platform. That is possible. And human life is meant for that purpose. Therefore in the Vedānta-sūtra it is said, athāto brahma jijñāsā. Human life is meant for inquiring about Brahman, the Absolute Truth.

So this brahma-jijñāsā, if one is actually interested in brahma-jijñāsā, then he requires a guru. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet [Muṅḍaka Upaniṣad 1.2.12].

[To understand these things properly, one must humbly approach, with firewood in hand, a spiritual master who is learned in the Vedas and firmly devoted to the Absolute Truth.]

If one is actually interested. Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam [SB 11.3.21].

[Therefore any person who seriously desires real happiness must seek a bona fide spiritual master and take shelter of him by initiation. The qualification of the bona fide guru is that he has realized the conclusions of the scriptures by deliberation and is able to convince others of these conclusions. Such great personalities, who have taken shelter of the Supreme Godhead, leaving aside all material considerations, should be understood to be bona fide spiritual masters.]

So guru is required for one who is actually interested in the highest status of life. Those who are like cats and dogs, they do not require guru. A dog does not require. He knows very well how to eat, how to sleep, how to have sex life, how to defend. That does not require any guru. By nature all animals know it. So the human life has got special knowledge, special advancement of consciousness. He can understand. So if he is refused or if he is kept in darkness, as it is being done by the modern civilization... Everyone is being kept on the platform of eating, sleeping, sex and defending. That's all. This is going on in the name of humanity, nationality and so on. But the business is the same. The business is the same: eating, sleeping, mating and defending, as the cats and dogs are doing, in a different way only. The dogs, they enjoy sex life on the street without any shame, and if a human being arranges for the same purpose, nice apartment, sixth-floor building and all..., but the purpose is the same. Eating is the same. No. Beyond this one has to go. Therefore the Vedic injunction is, tad vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet samit-pāṅiḥ śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham [Muṅḍaka Upaniṣad 1.2.12].

[To understand these things properly, one must humbly approach, with firewood in hand, a spiritual master who is learned in the Vedas and firmly devoted to the Absolute Truth.]

So some of the devotees who are now eager to accept the spiritual life very seriously, and they have come to take initiation, this is the first initiation. And after some time when they are accustomed, they... Now they have to promise that they'll give up four sinful activities. Sinful activity... If you indulge in sinful activities there cannot be any spiritual advancement. That is not possible. Just like here there will be fire. If you favorably ignite the fire, it will be blazing. But if you ignite the fire and pour water at the same time, then there will be no blazing fire. Similarly, to advance in spiritual life and at the same time indulge in sinful activities will not help us. The sinful act..., the basic principles of sinful activities are mentioned in the śāstra-striya, sūnā, dyūta, pāna. Pāna means intoxication, including chewing pān and drinking tea. Chaya pāna. So one has to give up this pāna. And drinking, smoking, drinking tea, chewing pān should be given up. Pāna. This is one of the pillar of the sinful activities. And meat-eating—meat, fish, eggs—they should be given up. And gambling, dyūta, pāna dyūta [SB 1.17.38],

[Sūta Gosvāmī said: Mahārāja Parīkṣit, thus being petitioned by the personality of Kali, gave him permission to reside in places where gambling, drinking, prostitution and animal slaughter were performed.]

that should be given up. And avaidha stri-saṅgi should be given up. In this way, if you become cleansed, then... Just like if we get dry wood, then the fire ignites very easily. If we get moist wood, then it takes some time. So voluntarily we should give up these sinful activities. Then spiritual advancement of life will be very quick. And those who are being first-initiated, they must chant at least sixteen rounds. Saṅkhyā-pūrvaka-nāma-gāna-natibhiḥ.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto the six Gosvāmīs, namely Śrī Rūpa Gosvāmī, Śrī Sanātana Gosvāmī, Śrī Raghunātha Bhaṭṭa Gosvāmī, Śrī Raghunātha dāsa Gosvāmī, Śrī Jīva Gosvāmī, and Śrī Gopāla Bhaṭṭa Gosvāmī, who were engaged in chanting the holy names of the Lord and bowing down in a scheduled measurement. In this way they utilized their valuable lives and in executing these devotional activities they conquered over eating and sleeping and were always meek and humble enchanted by remembering the transcendental qualities of the Lord.]

The Gosvāmīs, they showed us the way. Saṅkhyā-pūrvaka. So many rounds we must chant, at least. Haridas Ṭhākura was chanting three hundred thousand times. We cannot do that. That is not possible. So we have made a minimum, sixteen rounds. So those who are being initiated, they must chant at least sixteen rounds. If they can increase, it is better. But not less than that. Saṅkhyā-pūrvaka-nāma-gāna-natibhiḥ.

So these things should be observed, and always pray to Kṛṣṅa, that "Kṛṣṅa, I have taken shelter of You. Kindly guide me." And He is prepared to guide. He says, "If a devotee surrenders and wants My guide..." He says,

teṣām evānukampārtham aham ajñāna-jaṁ tamaḥ nāśayāmy ātma-bhāva-stho jñāna-dīpena bhāsvatā [Bg 10.11]

[Out of compassion for them, I, dwelling in their hearts, destroy with the shining lamp of knowledge the darkness born of ignorance.]

So Kṛṣṅa is always ready to help us provided we are eager to take His help. Then jñāna-dīpena bhāsvatā. When Kṛṣṅa takes charge of making you enlightened in knowledge, who can be better person of knowledge, man of knowledge, or wise, than a devotee? A devotee, they say a devotee: only the foolish person who has no knowledge, he becomes a devotee. That is a wrong conception. Without full knowledge, nobody can become devotee. Because he has no scarcity of knowledge. Kṛṣṅa says, jñāna-dīpena bhāsvatā. He gives special—teṣām evānukampārtham aham ajñāna-jaṁ tamaḥ [Bg 10.11]. "Darkness I drive away." Ajñāna-jaṁ nāśayāmy ātma-bhāva-stho.

So take shelter of Kṛṣṅa and avoid these four principles of sinful life and chant sixteen rounds. Then easily you become advanced in spiritual consciousness, Kṛṣṅa consciousness. And as soon as you understand Kṛṣṅa, you become liberated immediately. Janma karma ca divyaṁ me yo jānāti tattvataḥ, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti [Bg 4.9].

[One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world, but attains My eternal abode, O Arjuna.]

īhā yasya harer dāsye karmaṅā manasā vācā nikhilāsv apy avasthāsu jīvan-muktaḥ sa ucyate [Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.2.187]

[One who engages in the transcendental service of the Lord in body, mind and word is to be considered liberated in all conditions of material existence.]

Anyone who has sincere desire to serve Kṛṣṅa by his work, karmaṅā; manasā, by his mind; by his words... So either you engage your activities, your mind, your words in the service of Kṛṣṅa. Or out of three, at least two, at least one. Then your life is successful. Kṛṣṅa is so kind that this simple activity doesn't require..., nobody requires a very high standard education to understand Kṛṣṅa or to advance in Kṛṣṅa consciousness. Very simple thing. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg 18.65].

[Always think of Me and become My devotee. Worship Me and offer your homage unto Me. Thus you will come to Me without fail. I promise you this because you are My very dear friend.]

Here is Kṛṣṅa Deity. You see every day and think of Him. It is very easy. As soon as you become practiced to see the Deity, the impression is within your mind. So you can think of Kṛṣṅa, man-manā. And because you come to the temple and always see Kṛṣṅa and His daily program, then you become a bhakta. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto. Mad-yājī, you worship Kṛṣṅa. Whatever you have got, little patram puṣpam phalam toyam [Bg 9.26],

[If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it.]

just try to offer. And at last just offer respectful obeisances. Then you become perfect. You become eligible to go back home, back to Godhead. Very simple thing. It is not at all difficult, this Kṛṣṅa consciousness. Anyone. There is no distinction. Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ [Bg 9.32].

[O son of Pṛthā, those who take shelter in Me, though they be of lower birth—women, vaiśyas [merchants], as well as śūdras [workers]—can approach the supreme destination.]

Never mind one is born in low-grade family, but still he can take to Kṛṣṅa consciousness. Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya, striyo śūdrās tathā te 'pi yānti parām. Everything is open.

So not only the devotees who are being initiated today, I request all of you, please come here daily, see the Deity. Even if you cannot offer anything... I think everyone can offer, I think, a flower can be offered, a little fruit can be offered. Even if you do not offer, just come here, see the Deity and take the impression within your mind and offer obeisances. Just see. And chant Hare Kṛṣṅa. Everyone, there is no restriction. So that is our request. We have opened this branch in your city. It is a very prominent place. You can come and take the advantage.

Thank you very much. Hare Kṛṣṅa.

Devotees: All glories to Śrīla Prabhupada. [break]

Harikeśa: Kṛṣṅa-kiśora dāsa.

Prabhupāda: What are the rules?

Devotee (1): Four rules.

Initiate (1): No intoxication, no meat-eating, no illicit sex life, no gambling.

Harikeśa: Kṛṣṅa-kiśora dāsa.

Prabhupāda: So your spiritual name, Kṛṣṅa-kiśora dāsa.

Devotees: Jaya. [applause]

Prabhupāda: What are the rules and regulations? [Hindi]

Devotee (1): Four regulative principles. [Hindi]

Prabhupāda: He does not understand English? Hindi?

Initiate (2): No meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex life, no gambling.

Prabhupāda: That's it.

Harikeśa: Sudhīra dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Sudhīra. Dhīras tatra na muhyati [Bg 2.13].

[As the embodied soul continually passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. The self-realized soul is not bewildered by such a change.]

You are sudhīra.

Harikeśa: Vrajeshvara Prana?

Prabhupāda: What are the rules and regulations? [Hindi]

Vrajeshvara Prana: [Hindi] Four regulative principles. [Hindi] ... or that illicit sex. [Hindi] And chanting sixteen rounds daily.

Harikeśa: Viśvarāja dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Very good name. Viśvarāja dāsa. Viśvarāja is Kṛṣṅa.

Harikeśa: Rangachala Pati Ram?

Prabhupāda: What are the rules and regulations?

Rangachala Pati Ram: Pardon?

Prabhupāda: What are the rules and regulations?

Rangachala Pati Ram: [Hindi] ...eating onions, tea, wines, and all these four principles.

Prabhupāda: Illicit sex.

Rangachala Pati Ram: Illicit.

Harikeśa: Rāmasvarūpa dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Rāmasvarūpa dāsa.

Harikeśa: [background discussion; calls indistinct name] The four rules?

Representative of Initiate (5): [Hindi] ...tea, coffee [Hindi].

Harikeśa: Rādhā-sakhī dāsī.

Prabhupāda: Rādhā-sakhī dāsī.

Initiate (5): Rādhā...?

Prabhupāda: Sakhī dāsī. That's all?

Harikeśa: For second initiation, Śrīkāra dāsa and Yoga-pati dāsa.

Prabhupāda: So they can come to me at three o'clock.

Harikeśa: Three o'clock.

Prabhupāda: Or in the evening after...

Hari-śauri: We'll be here tomorrow, also.

Prabhupāda: Yes. They can come in the evening about five o'clock. So now you can perform yajña. So I can go?

Harikeśa: Yes. [end]

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[Bg 2.13][SB 11.3.21][Bg 10.11][Bg 9.32][Bg 4.9][Bg 9.26][Bg 18.65][SB 1.17.38][Muṅḍaka Upaniṣad 1.2.12][Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.2.187]
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