Room Conversation

Prabhupāda: Of course, if I die, there is nothing to be ruined. You are all participants. So organize this farm project, simple living. Human life is meant for God realization. Try to help them. This is my...

Paramānanda: We're always feeling your presence very strongly, Śrīla Prabhupāda, simply by your teachings and your instructions. We're always meditating on your instructions.

Prabhupāda: Thank you. That is the real presence. Physical presence is not important.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Mother Satyabhāmā, she wrote a short note to you. Should I read it to you?

Prabhupāda: Um-hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: She said, "Dear Śrīla Prabhupāda, please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Your Divine Grace. This shawl is made of the wool from our own sheep, spun and woven here at Gītā-nagarī. It is the first piece we have made. While I was working on it I would always think of you, of how I was supposedly making you a gift. But actually you are giving me the gift of engagement in devotional service. Śrīla Prabhupāda, I always pray to Lord Nṛsiṁhadeva to protect you and allow you to stay with us to finish your books. But I think today the rain falling from the sky is actually the tears of the demigods, crying at the prospect of your departure. I am also crying. Even Kṛṣṅa cried at the passing of Grandfather Bhīṣma, so I have a right to cry. I cannot be so philosophical to say that you are always present in your books and teachings, though I know these things are true. I will miss you so much, Śrīla Prabhupāda, if you go. I beg that I may always remain your menial servant and devotee. Your humble disciple, Satyabhāmā dāsī."

Prabhupāda: Thank to her. Made with our wool.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: So you'll take rest now, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Um-hmm. This can be on the foot. Yes. Āp.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Is it warm?

Prabhupāda: Hmm, very nice. Very comfortable. Hare Kṛṣṅa, Hare Kṛṣṅa, Kṛṣṅa Kṛṣṅa... Made with our wool.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Would you like a little sweet singing, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Hmm. [kīrtana begins] [break]

Prabhupāda: [Bengali conversation] Why not consult with father and son?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Which one is that?

Prabhupāda: The father's name is...

Sac-cid-ānanda: [indistinct name], Harinam Place?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Harinam Place?

Sac-cid-ānanda: [indistinct name] His one son is doctor. Raman Medical Store in Loi Bazaar, near Post Office.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: He's a doctor? Famous doctor. Cures people.

Sac-cid-ānanda: He has own chambers, medical store.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: I don't advise it, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I don't think it's a good idea to do. Because I don't see why we don't consult all twenty thousand doctors. I mean, why is he... Sac-cid-ānanda just happened to be... He goes to the shop and he sees the man's shop. Why not wait for Dr. Ghosh or call Dr. Ghosh here? I mean, what I'm trying to say is that if I go to Mathurā, I'll also pass many medical shops, so I could consult any one of those men, probably, just as well.

Sac-cid-ānanda: That's a fact.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: That's a fact, huh.

Prabhupāda: They have got good practice.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Because Vṛndāvana is small, so everybody has to go to whoever is the doctor here.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: They are kavirājī or allopathic?

Sac-cid-ānanda: He also both using, kavirājī also.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: He does... He's both. He says you can do either one with him. You can take allopathic or kavirāja. He gives both. Whatever the patient wants. Right?

Sac-cid-ānanda: He is making some kavirāja also medicines.

Prabhupāda: His father practices haikin.[?] And the son practices...

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Allopathic. I think we're letting ourselves in for trouble when we call these doctors.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: My personal opinion is that when you call these doctors, you're simply letting..., we are simply letting ourselves in for more trouble, because they're not going to study the case very carefully. They're just going to start prescribing. Your case is so delicate that the slightest wrong diagnosis and medicine causes havoc.

Prabhupāda: No, they have good practice.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: But the same thing, as they were recommended, similarly, this kavirāja in Bombay was recommended. [Prabhupāda coughing] We can call him, but...

Prabhupāda: Consult him.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: I've lost hope with these doctors, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I'll consult if you insist, but I... I mean... I've lost hope. [break]

Prabhupāda: And they know me also very well.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: So you want me to bring them here?

Prabhupāda: No, he'll bring.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: He can bring them here, and then they can examine you.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: All right. You think you can bring the father and son here? All right. You think you can bring them this evening? This afternoon or evening?

Sac-cid-ānanda: At four o'clock.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: You'll leave here at four o'clock?

Sac-cid-ānanda: What time is it?

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Now it is ten past three. You'll leave at four, and they'll get here by 4:35. That's all right. That's a good time. Let us see, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Maybe they can... I mean, I'm just not a blind follower of these doctors anymore. Experience makes one...

Sac-cid-ānanda: [indistinct]

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: No harm in their coming, especially if they know you, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: They know me very well.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Sometimes you were doing business with them?

Prabhupāda: No, no. As Vṛndāvana inhabitant. This father came to speak here last year.

Tamāla Kṛṣṅa: Oh. Should I send another telegram for Bhakti-caru? I think it might be helpful. Because more than likely, whichever doctors come, they speak Hindi or Bengali. I think it would be helpful to have him here.

Prabhupāda: Simple... [coughing] [break] [end]